Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Dr. Drew Pinsky about his political evolution during the COVID-19 pandemic; his shift in openness to alternative ideas due to growing distrust in mainstream media; how an interview with RFK Jr. was a turning point for him in revealing the cozy relationship between regulators and pharmaceutical companies; the danger of arbitrary decisions, like the six-foot distancing rule, emphasizing the lack of scientific basis for them; why young people should be more outraged; his concern about potential future health crises and the need for meaningful discourse; and much more. See below vid for text…
I think a turning point was when Fauci admitted the six-foot distance was invented out of whole cloth. It was invented from, and I knew that two years ago by talking to all these cancelled doctors, and I talked to a guy named Paul Alexander two years ago who was in the room when, uh, Redfield, is that his name, made the decision. He goes, “Why six feet? There’s an aerosolized virus; it’d be 30 to 60 feet, certainly 10 feet.” And they actually agreed on maybe 10 feet. They took 10 feet to the White House, and some political operative said, “Well, no one will ever agree to that, just say 6 feet for…” And so it was never a medical decision. It was no scientific basis to it whatsoever. It’s had no utility, and yet, I mean, think about this, the whole world adopted it. The entire world. That, to me, is the really astonishing part about that experience of COVID. That lockdown was adopted by the world, six feet was adopted by the world, masks were adopted by the world, with none of it being considered for risk-reward analysis like what might happen as a result of this. And it was obvious to me there was going to be horrible mental health consequences. It was obvious.
Yeah, I want to get to that. Obvious, uh, or is there any medical data to support this? You were crushed if you tried to have that conversation. That’s going to start to come to light for people. How much did your political evolution shift because of the COVID craziness? Because when I had you on last time in studio, which was still in LA, so it’s about over two and a half years ago, you were still sort of saying some nice things about Fauci, and I know you guys have a history. I sense you’ve shifted a bit on that or at least you’re amenable to some other ideas.
I am open to everything now. I’m open to things that I never thought I would have been open to, and I really think that the door fully th came open. I’ve realized that everything in the news is BS. Everything. There is nothing that I can consume on any legacy media that I can trust, and that is shocking and that’s disturbing, and it makes you wonder how long it’s been going on for. And I’m concerned it might have been a very long time.
Yeah, was there a straw that broke the camel’s back on that specifically?
Yes, I was going to tell you that my interview with RFK Jr., my first interview with RFK Jr., he was so reasonable, so smart, and so many interesting ideas and enlightened me to this cozy relationship between the regulators and the pharma companies, which I really wasn’t aware of. I mean, I can’t let a pharma company representative into my office to give me a pen with a drug name on it, and yet those guys are living together and cross-pollinating. I mean, that’s mind-boggling to me. So, and that he had a very sensible, didn’t necessarily fully agree with it, but a sensible idea about vaccine research that he would like to push forward. Not that vaccines are bad, his family’s all vaccinated, my family’s all vaccinated.
And at the end of that interview, he said something to me. I’ve met him now many times since then. He goes, “Oh my god, you know, Drew, you are so courageous to talk to me.” And I thought, it blew me back in my chair. I thought, “I need courage to have a conversation with an adult in a public setting?” And he was right. This is a time where I didn’t realize how much speech was being suppressed, uh, how much was being manipulated, how much then, what happened after that was the Twitter files, and they started seeing what was going on, and it just, it’s just been to me this is all reprehensible, and what has happened as a result.
I don’t think I’ve shifted my political views. I’ve just really, in the, I never imagined I’d be at this point in my life, at this age and place in my career, freedom and freedom fighting and the courage to stand up for it have been the most important thing in my life right now, and that’s crazy. That is CRA. I live in the United States of America, and I have to worry about freedoms. I have to fight for freedom. That is an insanity, and I’m hoping it’s something that will pass soon.
Yeah, well, you know, there’s a far less chance they’re going to put you in a gulag in the free state of Florida rather than the commun, come to Florida, to Florida of California. All right, I’ve sold Florida. What do you think, psychologically, this is one of the things I talk about on the show a lot, that basically, psychologically now, if you are somebody that watches corporate press and pretty much thinks that is true and then you’re someone that maybe watches this or Rogan or you or just that mix, people, RFK in there too, of course, that your worlds are so different now that psychologically, as a nation, how do we put that together? Like, you could literally be basically living in a completely different world than your neighbor.
We are doing that. That’s what’s happening right now, and it, it’s actually makes me sad because it prevents any kind of discourse and conversation. People get, I can feel their stomach muscles tightening up when I just try to have a conversation, and that’s, that’s so disturbing to me. I, I, I guess I think what’s going to happen, I think enough, uh, sort of slowly uncovering of how much distortions have gone on and how arbitrary and capricious and and dangerous and horrible consequences these decisions have had, it’s going to come to light.
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“And it’s unwinding,” he says.
“All you have to do is look at the Pfizer stock price – look at the Moderna stock price, and they are hitting new lows every day.”
“And there’s a reason why,” Dowd added.
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— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) February 2, 2024
I don’t know if it’s going to be that there really are excess deaths. I’m worried that there are. If there are, that’s going to keep happening, and we’re going to see something. I don’t know if it’s COVID plus vaccine, but these conversations will evolve with time, and eventually, I think people will start to go, “Oh, I’m starting to see a bigger picture.”
I think the turning point was when Fauci admitted the six-foot distance was invented out of whole cloth. It was invented from, and I knew that two years ago by talking to all these cancelled doctors, and I talked to a guy named Paul Alexander two years ago who was in the room when, uh, Redfield was made the decision. He goes, “Why six feet? There’s an aerosolized virus; it’d be 30 to 60 feet, certainly 10 feet.” And they actually agreed on maybe 10 feet. They took 10 feet to the White House, and some political operative said, “Well, no one will ever agree to that, just say six feet for…” And so it was never a medical decision. It was no scientific basis to it whatsoever. It’s had no utility, and yet, I mean, think about this, the whole world adopted it. The entire world. That, to me, is the really astonishing part about that experience of COVID. That lockdown was adopted by the world, six feet was adopted by the world, masks were adopted by the world, with none of it being considered for risk-reward analysis like what might happen as a result of this. And it was obvious to me there was going to be horrible mental health consequences. It was obvious.
During COVID, communities with strict lockdowns, mask mandates, and more canceled public events had higher rates of depression.
Not only did these policies not work, they destroyed America’s mental health.
Catastrophic. pic.twitter.com/SY30FJbXV2
— Kevin Bass PhD MS (@kevinnbass) February 2, 2024
Yeah, I want to get to that. Obvious, uh, or is there any medical data to support this? You were crushed if you tried to have that conversation. That’s going to start to come to light for people. Do you think there will ever be any reckoning whatsoever? I mean, basically, everyone who got us into this either still has their job or has retired with cushy retirements or and/or made hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars in stocks on these things. I mean, is there any reckoning anywhere?
I hope, at minimum, particularly young people become furious. They should be outraged and angry at what was done to them. If that happens, I think, personally, I think that’s enough. Now, I know there’s a lot of people that want retribution, all kinds of legal action and civil or criminal. I really worry about that. I’m telling you, the present moment, I become obsessed with revolutionary France, obsessed, and I wanted to put a chapter in my book on narcissism on pre-revolutionary France because it was the only period of history they could find which was with as much narcissism and childhood trauma. And one of my conclusions that I wanted to put in that chapter, which my editor told me was too speculative, was that there would be scapegoating, there would be guillotines. That’s what guillotines just scape, just massive scapegoating, and never heard of cancellation, but here it came. So, scapegoating became this social media phenomenon that I predicted.
Crimes Against Humanity “The high levels of vaccine injuries & death, particularly vaccine deaths in children” In under 3 minutes Ian Brighthope details just how sinister, Governments approach to Covid. This will be the greatest crime against humanity ever committed.
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“The high levels of vaccine injuries & death, particularly vaccine deaths in children”
In under 3 minutes Ian Brighthope details just how sinister, Governments approach to Covid.
This will be the greatest crime against humanity ever committed. pic.twitter.com/UMLhMlj7Nh
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) February 2, 2024
Um, why did I bring this up? So, the problem is that if you, if you pull people up on the guillotine, the guillotines just keep going, and eventually, everybody goes. It’s a mathematical certainty of skateboarding; eventually, everybody. First, it was the Jacobins, then it was the Sans-culottes, and then it was the royalists. Everybody goes on the guillotine if somebody doesn’t say stop. So, what, at the all right, so if that’s not possible or not realistic, or you’re sort of afraid of what the end, and by the way, the other part is you’ll never get to the truth, right? Because people will be so defensive and scared, they’re not going to come forward with what actually happened. I want the truth out; that’s the most important thing.
So would the bigger problem then be that the pharmaceutical companies seemingly have done none of that internal research or investigation or anything, right? Like as far as I can tell, they’re still into all of this, and WEF is talking about Disease X and the rest of it, like that it all just kind of comes around again.
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— Truechucknorris (@snjegi333) February 2, 2024
Well, that’s the great risk, right? I don’t think people will put up for it. I think there’s enough outrage; I think they will. Oh my God, that I, I, if they, I think they would just say no. This is the real one. We did screw up on COVID; a lot of it was wrong, but this one, it’s 10 times worse, and they’re going to show you a video from China, some guy wigging out on the floor, and I think people would do it again.
I’m actually maybe not in certain places. I’m actually more concerned that they do need to social distance in some meaningful way, and we don’t because we don’t believe them. I think that’s possible too.
Yeah, I think that’s a higher probability and probably better. If you’re looking for more honest and thoughtful conversations about politics instead of non-stop screaming, check out our politics playlist. And if you want to watch full interviews on a variety of topics, watch our full episode playlist all right over here.
- Maybe the US covid response wouldn’t have been an utter disaster if someone who respected evidence-based medicine was sitting atop the scientific bureaucracy. Instead, we had Tony Fauci, who in July 2020 urged Americans to wear goggles based on nothing. – Jay B.
- It was COVID that black-pilled me. I will never get over it until the day I die. I can’t believe how naive I was before that. An entire nation of “free” people just laid down when the government told them to because of a bad chest cold. I know now where I live. – Jesse Kelly
The excess deaths in highly vaccinated countries are off the charts, but the media remains silent as the Covid genocide unfolds!
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— Truthseeker (@Xx17965797N) February 2, 2024
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